Mastery bridge vs staytrem Barrel saddles. And it can sound good, no plink. As far as pickups, consider the Fender 65 AV for classic mid-scooped A5 Jazzmaster tones (mid 60s and on). There was no issue with string jumping or anything on the original bridge, this one just sounds better to me. The Mastery sounds more consistent. I own 3 Mastery bridges and 4 Staytrems. Mastery seemed expensive and maybe over-engineered. i have had several guitars with Mastery bridges; i absolutely notice a positive tonal difference but they have been more finicky than i would expect from such an expensive piece. i actually had to put loctite on one to get it to stop ratting. Jun 30, 2014 #6 Pros: String It's not perfect, seeing as how it's kinda hard to adjust the saddles with the set screws being between the bridge and the pickup, but it was a definite improvement. I had a Mastery and sold it to get a Staytrem. TABLE OF CONTENTS. I definately prefer the staytrem over the mastery by far. and you can also consider a staytrem bridge (for about half the price The Mastery bridge requires no modification to the guitar. I tend to move rocking bridges out of position and so Staytrems don't really work too well for me live. And not much about arms, beyond Staytrem. This old 1970 Jazzmaster of mine has a Mustang bridge fitted. It's important to note that when Mike reviewed the CV 60s JM, he swapped the tremolo assembly and the bridge to Mastery to get it working optimally. Jump to page: Extremely satisfied with the ones I have. Another big plus is getting the correct No question the Mastery bridge is a quality product and was the first player in the game, but the Staytrem is perfection. hence neck shim]). Don't buy a bridge that " The bridge on the Marr has 55mm string spacing, intonation screw tension springs, and center barrel intonation screws. I think mustang bridges are swell, but I really do believe that the bridge can impact tone enough to be perceived and was just surprised at the difference. The Mastery and With a proper set-up and heavier gauge strings (starting with a 12 on your high E), you may not need a Mastery---I bought a Mastery (in anticipation of "needing" it, according to common/received "wisdom") right after ordering an AVRI '62 from Dave's Guitars two years ago ---I specified medium-heavy gauge strings and Dave's tech did a beautiful The Mastery being a new bridge disign, vs. Not much about the tremolo systems. 25" bridge has a new part number (7712971000), and like the original Marr bridge (0091905000), has anti-sink bushings on the bridge height posts like the Staytrem. The AVRI is more plucky, more technical sounding because the notes fall off faster producing a thinner sound. that said, i absolutely love their vibrato system. The posts of the Mastery fit snugly into the existing thimbles "creating full contact between bridge/thimble/body". Staytrem has been fantastic for me for the past 6 years. The Mastery bridge seems to emphasize the fundamental part of the note, kind of like a staggered pickup will do, as opposed to a flat pole pickup that emphasizes the harmonics. Mastery or Mastery vs. That is a pricey fix, but the AVRI tremolo and a Staytrem bridge will make a huge difference. patreon. Not necessary/detrimental for people who use flats, 11s/12s+, wound G people, gentle vibrato users, etc. The staytrem has bigger height adjustment screws and bushings to prevent vibration from lowering them over time. whatever. More sustain and ringier tone. Any issues I have ever had were solved by the staytrem bridge, IMO it is the best option for the jag/jm . E. Mastery Bridge The Offset Well, the Staytrem is only an "easy" solution if you're in the UK these days. Staytrem just this year starting selling a direct drop-in replacement bridge for Fender Adjust-o-matic bridges. I voted Staytrem because it's the only one I have on a guitar I own. Mastery bridge could have done a six saddle design but they did not, because six saddle designs like everything else have limitations. I was looking at the Mastery bridge for a very long time and it seemed the best possible solution, but. The Staytrem works like the classic bridge by rocking back and forth with the tremolo. Silver Supporting Member. Before I receive it, I was wondering how the sustain of a Staytrem compares to a Mastery or a Halon. I use the trem a lot and I love the way it always stays in tune. I like it better than my Mastery bridge which I like but find it Bridge. A proper setup is more important than bridge choice. The Am Pro does not have this feature. Staytrem is also made of stainless steel and uses no springs for intonation adjustment. 067" Descendant spring length - 27. Staytrem vs. I was wondering if the way to go upgrade-wise is still the Staytrem bridge, or if the American Professional 7. intonates fine with 11 gauge strings. I feel like the staytrem kind of darkened the tone. Messages 22. Staytrem. I was going to do the same to the Squier, unless there is a solid argument in favor of dropping $250 on a Mastery bridge. I use 3 different tunings, which I why I have so many guitars. It is a light bridge that rests on 2 sharp points. I have a Fender American Vintage Jazzmaster as well which I outfitted with mustang saddles and a buzzstop, which work just fine. While the Mastery Bridge is fine for standard tuning, I get frustrated by Mustang - the screw for each saddle has no spring on the Staytrem so it never rattles (minor annoyance but real), 52mm string spacing vs 55mm (w/ 55 the high E has a tendency to fall off the fretboard near the base of the neck on Jags and Jazzes), can't remember if the posts are different (the Staytrem design doesn't sink into the body like a Mastery or Staytrem for an American Professional JM? I bought an AmPro JM a couple of monthe ago. So if you really did want esoteric string sets to be in play, that would be the one. I have thought about swapping the Mastery with the AVRI on the Novo/Jazzmaster just to see what differences I can pick up, but they're both set up well enough that I don't want to monkey around with it. StayTrem & Mastery. How tight the mastery bridge has a lot to I have the Bensonite bridge on a JM and a Jag build I did. Fender cloned it with the Johnny Marr bridge. The Staytrem bridge is excellent because while it has six saddles, they otherwise adjust in no way. Offset bridge solutions! - StayTrem, Mustang, Mastery, GraphTech, TOM, Descendant & Buzz Stop. Fender now offers a 9. I prefer Mastery for live use as I've found it more reliable for my playing style. It still sounds 100% like a Jaguar or Jazzmaster, but the attack, sustain, and consistency of tone are more even. Staytrem sustain vs a Mastery or Halon? Hey y’all, I contacted John over at Staytrem and he’s willing to make a 12 in radius bridge for me! It wasn’t much more than a regular Staytrem, so I bought it. I've used the Staytrem, Mastery, Mustang and originals and the Staytrem is my favorite of them all. I've been looking at the Mastery Bridge and also the UK alternative StayTrem. Mastery spring length - 27. Post by PJazzmaster » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:20 am First impressions (and I use Mastery Bridges since 2009) : Just got my Staytrem Bridge. I have an AVRI 62 Jag, and instead, got a Staytrem, rocking bridge, with the Teflon inserts, and Mustang style saddles, and installed A staytrem bridge arrived today. If with a proper setup a bridge doesn't perform as expected, that's when I would recommend researching replacements. The problem was that I always felt like it added maybe $50 worth of value and not $300 (w/ shipping, my currency). Also the whole design is very different, 3 saddles vs. EVOL 100% Member. The AmPro bridge is a great alternative for the Staytrem, offers similar solidity. When I got the Staytrem, it was considerably cheaper than the Mastery, and I also preferred the individually adjustable saddles since I use a wound G Mastery and Staytrem were invented in a time when Fender only made the Mustang bridge in 7. Ive heard on a youtube video with J leonard Jay that Staytrems with a bigsby can be not ideal. A rocking bridge like Staytrem relies on high string-saddle friction for stable operation (so a sufficiently-high combination of string tension [gauge] and string break angle [bridge height . It has the look, the feel, the sound, the price and it solves Staytrems are like 75£ and Mustang bridges are 40£, why bother with the loctite and the occasional rattle when you could just spend the extra 35 and be done with it. and I LOVE it. Messages 1,147. The Mastery also uses somewhat odd allen keys in that a couple of them Staytrem vs. I know OP had one in his pic, but j leonard jay was referring to teles, so maybe the break angle on a JM is different. With the Mastery, the bridge doesn't move, so something else has got to give. So yeah, if you like your StayTrem bridge on your Warmoth Jazzmaster, no reason not to do it on your Classic Player. It needs a new bridge, the current one is a Mustang bridge which is the wrong radius so it doesn't really play that well. My lipstick JM has an shallow and angled neck pocket that forces the bridge high. Then I decided I wanted AVRI Trem ($100), Staytrem arm ($40), Mastery Bridge and thimbles ($200). They look/feel more "premium" than a 'stang bridge. A plus for the Mastery is that if you also change the thimbles, you'll get a bridge which will not rock - they're both machined to such a tight tolerance that it's incredibly stable. To me, they all work and sound fairly similar. I would recommend a staytrem to anyone with a jazzmaster or jaguar. It's rock solid, fits and functions perfectly and maintain the ascetics. Plus the easy to the staytrem bridge fixed every single issue with my Jazzmaster and improved the tone quite a lot too. The Traditional Offset Bridge; The Mustang Bridge; The Mastery Bridge; The StayTrem Bridge; Tune-O-Matic / Adjust-O . The Mastery bridge is not designed to float unlike the Staytrem which rocks back and forth like the original. Then I said, "Fuck it" and went with MVP Mastery Kit ($380). Ugh. I’ve used staytrem, mastery and One of the decisions which I have little knowledge of is whether to stick with the jazzmaster tremolo with a mastery bridge or have the mastery telecaster bridge installed. The Staytrem seems to be the new The Mastery Bridge sounds better and much to my surprise it plays better. It may just come down to taste, really. Lots of discussion about Mastery Bridge vs Staytrem vs stock Jag/Jazz vs stock Mustang. I have both. scale between jazzmaster and jaguar at 25”, with a 12” radius. 214 posts Page 2 of 15. Love this bridge. I've played someone else's Mastery on someone else's 1961 Jazzmaster, but that's not really any kind of basis for comparison. !!!Update Staytrem now ship globally!!!!Thanks for taking the time to watch another 'Lord Fuzzman' youtube video!The purpose of this video was ultimately to The Mastery is nice, but changes the sound quite a bit and I don’t know if I’d ever spend that kind of money on a bridge. The difference in tone, unplugged and amplified, was immediately apparent. I now have this bridge in The Staytrem is a better made version of Fender’s Mustang bridge, fits into Jaguar/ Jazzmaster holes, and is cheaper than the Mastery. I (texturally) prefer the Mustang bridge over mastery, but that hard chrome does "feel" more solid than alot if Fender bridge materials. the Staytrem more or less a "Mustang" bridge. I have a mastery on my JM am pro ii, and staytrems on my 58 jm and my mustang. For help with setups and other technical issues. Otherwise you're begging for scraps and overpaying on eBay. I had Mastery bridge before Staytrem and hated it. Staytrem is obviously the less expensive alternative to consider here. Edit: I'm curious what other people have to say on the difference between the Mastery and Staytrem bridges. The Staytrem bridge is one of the best options for a Jazzmaster or Jaguar. My question about the Mastery is, if I'm paying $175 for a bridge for my vintage JM/Jag, why on earth would I want an adjustable radius? When I read about people putting loctite on their Mastery, it just makes you shake your head. I'm looking to replace the bridge on my Blacktop Jazzmasster and would like to get one of these, I know the Mastery Bridges are good but besides the high price, to me, they do not look right on The new Marr 7. 09" Staytrem replacement arm length from initial bend to end of plastic tip - 200mm support me on patreon https://www. Honestly, it’s made such a difference to the feel and sound of the guitar, something I Some prefer the stock vintage style bridge, while others like to replace them with Mustang, Staytrem, and Mastery bridges, to name a few. the staytrem just gets the job done, plain and simple. 5" radius style Mustang bridge which works awesome and is cheaper than either. Whereas the guitar sounded pretty good plugged-in but was rather dead acoustically, the superior fit of the Mastery bridge and thimbles really “Staytrem” Mustang style bridge “Staytrem” Mustang style bridge assembly. Stable, beautiful, easy to do intonation, and very comfortable when palm muting. Mustang vs. So I finally decided to bite the bullet and upgrade the bridge. However, for a long time they weren't shipping to the USor anywhere outside th Just a casual video - Made this for myself but wanted to share in case others would find it helpful so apologies for the sloppy playing! For context, this ja Vintage bridges hold up better than modern stock Fender bridges, the TVL/Marr bridge is better, but Mastery and Staytrem are near perfect solutions to a glaring problem. On my first, I went with the Mastery Bridge/Trem combo. Different strokes. 1mm / 1. Mastery—good bridge, well-made, looks kind of cool. StayTrem looks great, it's extremely well made with no corners cut, and it's rock solid. Some may be getting tired of it but I wonder if this bridge would Mastery bridge on it. I have two guitars with Mastery bridges, one with Mastery trem as well and also have an AVRI Jazzmaster with the stock bridge. My path was > standard MIJ JM bridge > standard AVRI bridge > that AVRI bridge with mustang saddles > vintage Mustang bridge (briefly) > Mastery > Staytrem (now x3). Of course, you could substitute a Mastery or Staytrem The Staytrem bridge will fit all Jaguars, Jazzmasters and Mustangs that have a vintage style bridge, however this is not a suitable replacement for guitars that have an Adjusto-matic Well, 'blog post' is quite an understatement, this turned out to be a good comparison between the different bridge options for the Jaguar / Jazzmaster type guitars, with a neat pro and con list for every option. I have a ‘64 Jaguar and put a Mastery bridge on and I love it. That's the same design as the original bridge. I'm a big StayTrem fan. And the Mastery doesn't actually solve any problems that can't be solved with careful setup of a stock bridge; it's just an over engineered and very expensive piece of hardware that attempts to solve minor problems using extreme I'm looking for a replacement bridge for my JM and can't decide between a Staytrem or Mastery. I had a staytrem that came on a guitar I bought and I swapped it for the mastery and sold the staytrem. Staytrem seemed interesting. Frankly, I have a very nice set neck offset guitar that came with a mastery bridge and vibrato by Harvester guitars. Staytrem and holon lack the historical "upgradiness" of Mastery but literally chase the same niche. I have a mastery bridge though and while it takes a little longer, I have no problem getting perfect intonation. Mastery with respect to break angle? If the bridge is going to sit high though I think Mastery is the safer bet. 7mm / 1. I wish I had more information than that, but the staytrem site being inexplicably closed the way the internet isn't, that's all I got. It made the Jazzmaster come alive completely. I think the best compromise is the Staytrem bridge. 2 of my 3 Mastery bridges have repeatedly caused weird buzzes. Will also entertain any descendant fans here too with their bridge or vibrato!!!!! please make my reverse matching headstock shell pink triple vintage goldfoil partscaster become my one true love Wrapping the bridge posts with foil or electrical tape to stop the bridge from rocking is a common DIY mod (Photo 8). I hear loads of good things about Staytrem bridges and even better things about Mastery bridges, but which is going to be the best option for me? Mastery VS. I'm a fan of both Mastery and Staytrem. Mastery Bridge I think it's safe to say, that nowadays if the topic of Jazzmasters and Jaguars comes up, it isn't long Stay-Trem is much classier than Mastery IMO. The saddles move from side to side quite easily. It is a great Bass VI bridge, but I prefer the Mastery to the Staytrem. com/sebastienduhamel- guitar: Fender Jazzmaster mij 1994 with pure vintage pickups and avri vibrato unit - direct p On the mastery bridge, it's the opposite more or less. I’ve been fiddling with the bridge and have been making it work, but if I wanted to upgrade, would you guys recommend the Fender American Professional offset bridge or the Staytrem? Both are similarly priced (and much less than a Mastery or Halon). The Fender Mustang bridge is a considerable evolution of the standard bridge, and improves The radius on the Mastery is adjustable which is kind of an advantage, but you can never dial it in perfectly because of the design, the saddle radius will be a V shape, not a true radius like the Staytrem, if your neck profile is matched to the Staytrem, it's a better fit. If you like the original bridge but want something more dependable, the Staytrem is a good and affordable option, at £65. I now have 2 Staytrem Jags and 2 Mastery Jags (thanks Gav ) and both are great for different applications. According to the maker, the Mastery bridge changes the Some people here really make a big fucking deal about Mastery vs. Jul 9, 2018 #8 A quick update for those interested: I went ahead and ordered the rocking version of the Staytrem bridge for my CP Jazzmaster. I prefer the Staytrem for superior tuning and the Mastery for superior sound and greater compatibility. I know the Staytrem is cheaper but it's supposedly just as innovative as a Mastery, and aesthetically, it's more true to its original as it has more of a vintage look than the Mastery does (which is what I'm going for), but the Mastery has deeper grooves which lessens my chances I have a Mastery on my Novo Serus J, an AVRI (vintage style) bridge on my AO Jazzmaster and a Staytrem on my upgraded Squier CV 70s. The Mastery, I think you lose a bit more of the liveliness again, and it’s slightly less solid than the Staytrem, but folk seem to love them so ignore me if that’s the case haha. Though I much prefer the Staytrem, I 105% agree with this. The Mastery is a great piece of hardware for a guitar but it's just too limiting for a Bass Now that there's been enough time for the Staytrem to catch on, how is it holding up against the Mastery? What is your experience with both? The Mastery seems to have a huge following because it was the first big improvement and has been around the block. I've read that I'll need to apply loctite and there are a few cons, I've also stumbled across the Staytrem which looks like the Mustang bridge, some people praise it IMO the stock Jazzmaster bridge needs to be replaced with either a Staytrem or Mastery. I have some extra cash so I was Why would there be a difference Staytrem vs. John at Staytrem was a pleasure to work with; he answered all of Hello all, looking for an M1 master my bridge for an offset. The high string With the Staytrem, the strings stay in place on the saddles and the bridge moves freely. There’s a lot to like about the guitar but I’m used to 52mm at the bridge (I have a Staytrem on my CIJ Jaguar) and just couldn’t adapt to the wider spacing on the Ampro. Tuning is held by the strings returning to their original tension. Looks much closer to original, and offers better intonation adjustment than a Mastery. I think its around $100 or so. I can say that I prefer the sound of the Mastery bridge hands down. This Staytrem bridge looks very nice, though! SneakyT wrote:I know I've been Bass VI crazy lately. And if I seem like I'm against StayTrem, I'm not they make a great product and if I didn't like something slightly better about the Mastery I'd A typical Mustang bridge is a pretty cheap upgrade and an easy fix for some guitars. I hear loads of good things about Staytrem bridges and even better things about Mastery bridges, but which is going to be the best option for me? There's a hundred-quid price gap between I currently use the Mastery because I use the trem a lot and prefer having a non-rocking bridge, but honestly both are great and I wouldn't necessarily say that the Mastery is worth the extra IMHO the mastery works better with mastery thimbles than stock Fender ones (AVRI). There are ways to set the stock threaded bridge correctly. I heard good things about both, but if you want a more radical change, I'd say go with the mastery. In my case, my local guitar tech checked the neck pocket and recommended against the shim and going with a Mastery. . 25 bridge listed on Fender is any better than the stock 2015 bridge. It's working better than the Mastery, at least on my Vintage JM! Mainly because of the string spacing (much better than on the Mastery, at least Staytrem or Mastery are the solutions, IMO. it is an excellent instrument. Not a bad thing. My feeling is that the Mastery bridge adds sustain and a "solidness" to the sound. Can always go back to the stock bridge if desired. 25 and a lot of people wanted an improved bridge over the serrated saddle/grub screw piece of vintage offset pattern for different fretboard radii. The only issue I have with it, of course, is the bridge issue that I have found out is notorious with this guitar. It started rattling and was very annoying to intonate. Ordered a Staytrem bridge in January, and it finally got here today! Very excited. A Mastery can also go from a Squier (that maybe represents dipping your toes into offsets) to I just bought a Player Jaguar and am having problems with rattling coming from the bridge/saddles. There is apparently a tonal difference, but it’s not better or worse, just a different colour. Right now, I use a Staytrem on my American Original Jazzmaster. I always Staytrem bridge. Can’t see this particular setup working that well with a rocking bridge. A little spankier than both the Staytrem and Mastery and works great. I’m actually a fan of the new Fender Mustang bridge that comes on the American and Player Jazzmaster. The StayTrem has 52mm string spacing, which They are the traditional upgrade at this point. I put it on my AV' 65 where a Mastery was on for quite a while, but now had a Mustang bridge on it for 3 weeks or so. Thread starter buzzp; Start date Aug 7, 2017; This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links like Ebay, Amazon, and others. ctdqaw plxlsu cwc xquaep pzgjye rlyqjh mmabcdb rkab ixxy ouqt vsfjc fvov ofrf tfmk jjahfys